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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

thanks again, I'll definitely mention you in the READ ME/THANKS file

these are all of the generals I've created that aren't already included in the game:


United States

Anthony McAuliffe (changed the Battle of the Bulge version of Eisenhower)
Roy Geiger (a marine general who played an important role in Guadalcanal and Okinawa)
Admiral William Halsey
Admiral Marc Mitscher
General Douglas MacArthur
General Joseph Stilwell


Great Britain

Admiral Bertram Ramsey (helped salvage Dunkirk, played a role in D-Day)
General William Slim (probably the most important Brit general in asia)
Air Marshal Arthur Harris (THIS guy should have British carpt-bombing, not Monty)
General Richard O'Connor (a fast-moving general who got captured before he could follow up on his success)

Lieutenant General Stanislaw Maczek (a Polish general who was regarded as one of the best armored commanders in service with the Brits, did quite well against the Germans in Poland as well)

Soviet Union

General Nikolai Vatutin
General Rodion Malinovsky
Air Marshal Alexander Novikov (leader of the Soviet Air Force)
Marshal Aleksander Vasilevsky (chosen for the invasion of Hokkaido)
Leonid Govorov (in charge of Leningrad for most of the war

Germany

Kurt Student (replaced the Crete version of Kesselring)
Heinz Guderian (master of armored warfare)
Wolfram von Richthofen (probably best Luftwaffe general)
Walter Model (Hitler's fireman)
Admiral Doenitz (German U-boat exponent)


Japan

Colonel Hiromichi Yahara (played a vital role in designing the defenses at Okinawa)
General Yasuji Okamura (C-in-C in China for a good length of time)
General Shunroku Hata (another Chinese-based general, killed millions of civilians)
Admiral Jisaburo Ozawa (the best Japanese admiral not already in the game)

part of the reason I put so much research into Chinese generals is that two of my new generals fought there almost exclusively. thought it could make for a challenge in single-player WW2 mode.



Italy

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

Here is Guderian: (He was half blinking when I took the pic apparantly). He was difficult because the only picture of him I could use was slanted.

Kurt Student is the only other German I can do. The others have a lack of colored/good pictures.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

Just finished Himmler. I toned down his tan skin after I took the pic. Again I was working with a slanted face.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

Finished Biritsh General Slim and Churchill.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Planetshakers should reconize this person:
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I guess thats FDR huh? Looks very similar to pic. Smile
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What about Curits LeMay? You can't forget about him in the pacific. If his strategies were not there he can never would have stopped the Japanese.


You might use him for Arnold/Chuikov cuz he looks like a little bit of both lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_LeMay
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Nice find. That pic of him is usable as well.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

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What about Curits LeMay? You can't forget about him in the pacific. If his strategies were not there he can never would have stopped the Japanese.


You might use him for Arnold/Chuikov cuz he looks like a little bit of both lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_LeMay


I thought about Curtis LeMay-- but Arnold kinda covers that category of the carpet-bombing American general. I wouldn't include LeMay without changing Arnold's special ops first. so when it came down to a choice between LeMay and Stilwell-- I went with the guy that was less well known. I wanted the United States to have a general with a strong infantry-focus.

but I seriously considered LeMay-- I can only get 8 generals to show up in the World War II mode right now-- so any others would have to be saved for campaign or editor-based missions.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Really so that means he cannot be used. Maybe in one of the campaigns you can alternate with Arnold in the Europe and LeMay in the Pacific or something like that.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 2:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

for the Italians it was tricky finding info-- but once found very easy to pick which generals. Italy's biggest problem is that they were on the winning team at the end of World War I--- and as such prepared to fight the exact same sort of battle they had fought in the past. doesn't appear to be the same sort of emphasis on mobility and firepower. it had virtually no colonies (and very poor ones at that) and just couldn't compete with even the weaker Allied nations. I see them as a 'very poor man's Japan' in this sense-- it's not that they lacked courage-- it's just they were, in many ways, still trying to fight a war that had finished 20 years earlier! it also lacked political unity-- LOTS of in-fighting. Mussolini was never reallly able to take control of the country in the way that Hitler did. even when his staff told him Italy was in no way prepared for war-- Mussolini had Italy jumping into the ocean with both feet-- so to speak. I think if Italy had not gotten involved, or merely played a defensive role rather than trying to get more colonies-- they would have done better.


there were so very few generals of any historical signficance that these are the guys:


PIETRO BADOGLIO: accused of using chemical weapons in East Africa (although I'm not sure this was ever proven). didn't want Italy to join Germany in the war-- and eventually worked to overthrow him.

Chemical Weapons
Infantry Assault
Facist Purge
Corps HQ


VITTORIO AMBROSIO: led Italian offensives in Yugoslavia with resonable success. helped overthrow Mussolini, when he failed to convince Mussolini to pull out of WW2.

Infantry Assault
Military Gear Up
Infantry Resupply
Corps HQ


ITALO BALBO: was in charge of the Italian Air Force, involved with the Blackshirts, and was Governer-General of Libya and the Italian C-n-C in North Africa. died early in the war in a a landing accident in June of 1940. one of those "could have been" generals that's too fun to not include.

should probably have ops like this:

Carpet Bombing
Blackshirt Regiment
Supply Drop
Facsist Purge (yeah, I know, that op doesn't exist yet-- but for THIS guy it's probably appropriate)
Corps HQ


GIOVANNI MESSE: arguably the best Italian general for armor-- although his forces get crushed on the Eastern Front. he appears to have done well defending the Mareth Line. he also helped play a role in the creation/training of the Arditi (Italian storm-troopers in WWI)

Infantry Assault
Fighting Spirit
Armored Resupply
Corps HQ


UGO CAVELLERO: after a fairly prominent and successfuly career in WWI this fellow went on to a string of defeats in WW2. he's most famous for requesting that Rommel be relieved of command in North Africa and being ignored!

Artillery Barrage
Espionage
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Corps HQ


RODOLFO GRAZIANI: in charge of the 'pacification' of Libya. was involved in the Ethiopian campaigns. he was more famous for killing civilians than winning battles. he led the disasterous invasion of Egypt against his wishes-- and was the only Italian general to remain loyal to Mussolini after the coup.

Scorched Earth
Sniper Ambush
Espionage
Corps HQ



ITALO GARIBOLDI: this guy is sort of a blank-slate and pretty much lost every fight I can remember him being involved in! accordingly he shouldn't have a single combat-worthy special op. served in North Africa and Russia.

Economic Aid
Lend Lease
Rapid Deployment
Corps HQ


most of my generals have 6 special ops (a small number have 7). given how badly most Italian generals did I opted to only give them four ops.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

been doing a lot of reading on the role of China in WW2-- and stumbled on a very obscure Chinese general named Qiu Quingquan. what makes him interesting is that he studied sociology in Shanghai before attending the Whampoa Military Academy with an emphasis on engineering. in the 1930s he was sent to the Prussian Military Academy where it is believed he studied armored warfare under Guderian. He was put in charge of China's only armored division (the 200th "Iron Division", one of China's most elite regiments) after General Du Yuming got kicked out by Chen Cheng. He led the unit with distinction in the Burma campaign (this division appears to have had a mix of light Russian and American tanks for most of the war-- but it seems near the end they actually got Shermans in limited quantities).

so I'm thinking, to make this general unusual for the Chinese, his special operation is to summon a Chinese Armored Division.

he commited suicide in 1948 during the HuaiHai Campaign. the Nationalist Forces were collapsing in the face of the Communist offensive-- and when he attempted a break out, realized it was impossible. he shot himself in the stomach and bled to death.
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 2:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

oops, forgot to include the Italian navy

so Admiral Inigo Campioni-- since we've already got a submarine based special-op-- might as well have the Italians get access to their midget-sub frogmen to blow ships up every now and then!

besides which, he had a really interesting story-- when Italy dropped out of the war he immediately started organizing forces to fight the Germans.. when he was captured by the Germans-- they told him that he was a traitor for changing sides-- and that he should fight for Mussolini's new puppet-government (the Italian Social Republic). he declined, saying that this not the rightful goverment of Italy. when offered a chance to avoid the death sentence by willingly serving under the ISR he decided to reject their 'pardon' and allow them to proceed with the execution! he may not have been a great admiral-- but the man had guts.

besides which he actually scored some decent victories against the British Navy a couple of times.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

How about the Russian navy?? Like their admirals because in this game there are none of them only land forces for the Russians.
 
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How about the Russian navy?? Like their admirals because in this game there are none of them only land forces for the Russians.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Soviet_admirals

Here is the link for the Russian Soviet Admirals in WWII.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

Here is Rodion Malinovsky. He was at Stalingrad and Budapest.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

Here is Govorov.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

These are ideas for the Italian bomb. I think they might be in for a special op.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermos_Bomb
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.79 This is the plane that drops the kinds of Italian bombs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motobomba I am trying to find a picture for this.

Italian generals not completed yet??
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I can't find any color pictures of them facing forward.

If you can post some pics here, it would save time. Try to ensure they have the above characterisitcs.

Anyway, I was busy adding a 88mm flak cannon to Germany and a AT bunker to Russia.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Oh what kinda pics? Generals of what country? I would help but I don't get what you are asking. Plus didn't have time to make a movie maker. I will work on it this summer.

I think I am just suggesting Gizmotron some ideas for developing the Italian ops.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Don't worry about the movies. It will be next year by the time my campaign will be done.

I am looking for pictures like these:
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thats gonna be tough hmm interesting. I will look for a website then.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Planetshakers wrote:
Thats gonna be tough hmm interesting. I will look for a website then.


That's why I'm asking you. I looked everywhere for pics like these for Italians. However, to no avail. This means I cannot do the generals without pics.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Oh ok I will be researching. Man these leaders do not like to take pictures lol. They keep facing the other way. It has to be colored right??
 
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